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Affect
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Joined: Aug 03, 2012
Posts: 4
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:28 pm
Post subject: Facebook Fan pages, likes and making the genre 'hip'
I'm looking to work with other games to expand the the fan-base of not only my game but the genre. So I want to invite any or all of you and you're Games to like
ZeroPoint (Ø.)
on facebook and I my dev team and the Games page will like your game. Think that's fair.
I've learned you reach a newer, larger audience with greater social acceptability. Social acceptability comes with likes.
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ZeroPoint {/}.
http://www.facebook.com/zeropointenterprises?ref=hl
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RyanPaddy
Level 8
Joined: Jul 12, 2002
Posts: 1060
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:58 pm
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Can you describe your game a bit?
No offense but I nearly took for a spambot before following your link. Then I scratched my head over what exactly you were offering and whether it was relevant here, before following another link and seeing the word "larp" mentioned. Tried your rulebook link in dropbox but it was broken.
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Affect
Level 1
Joined: Aug 03, 2012
Posts: 4
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:17 am
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Such negativity. We won't get anywhere with attitudes like that. Frankly it's that outcasted hostility that scares woman, then subsequently most straight men, away from the genre.
So A) the post should be here because it's a Larp In a part of the world and B) have the human decently to realize that I'm willing to make minor sacrifices to my accessibility, of all things, to improve, of all things again, the overall quality of the already professionally organize, albeit rough, rule book. Why? So that the international audience that's reading can see by extension how genuinely serious I am about All larps ...also so trolls like you can take a break from trolling.
So how about you take some steps to altering that about yourself now by assisting(us all)?
That was harsh but you have choice to be possitive, make it. Or else condition yourself to defeat and ultimately social sanction.
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ZeroPoint {/}.
http://www.facebook.com/zeropointenterprises?ref=hl
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BaronBlackRose
Level 8
Joined: Aug 24, 2002
Posts: 741
Location: New England
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:39 am
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Not a smart move calling one of the mods here a troll. If he says your link is broken. you need to fix it. Calling him a troll is not fixing your broken link .
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Affect
Level 1
Joined: Aug 03, 2012
Posts: 4
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:02 am
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Opposed to leaving it broken forever? ...loolz, yeah thanks. Not everyone has cars and Internet in the US. Mobil devices aren't authorized to make changes on Facebook pages. I can tell the site is rather unpopulated and being a moderator doest hold much clout when you've got more chiefs than indians. Let's try to not hone in on the One harsh word, and consider what I suggested toward the end to paddy, alright B.b..
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RyanPaddy
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Joined: Jul 12, 2002
Posts: 1060
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:01 pm
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Hi Affect,
You're mis-reading my intention, I'm trying to help.
All forums get spam. Spam often looks like somewhat meaningless posts with off-site links in them. That's what your first post looked like. In order to figure out you're running a larp I had to go hunting for info. Why not make it easy on people and say up front what your game is about? I still don't know. If you post the way you did in other forums where the moderators go to less trouble to investigate suspicious-looking posts, you run the risk of having your posts mistaken for spam and deleted.
The link to your rulebook from one of your facebook pages is broken. This isn't a criticism, I'm pointing it out because I would like to look at your rulebook, but I can't.
As for the rest of your comments, you seem to be struggling with issues that aren't especially relevant to me. I got the impression from one of your Facebook pages that your game is in the US, maybe in the south. I'm not in the US, I'm in New Zealand. We don't have issues with gender ratio at larps here, it's 50:50 guys and girls. As for "straight men", who cares how many of your players are straight or gay? It's nobody's business but their own. I should also note that this forum has a policy against racist, sexist, and homophobic comments.
I don't have a problem with being an outcast or "hostility that scares women". I'm married and get on pretty well with people. Most of the people who larp here do too. Larp isn't especially well recognised here, but it's growing in popularity very rapidly. We have a couple of games with 150+ participants in my city. The main problem we have here is that larp is growing so rapidly that it's a struggle for organisers to keep up. You seem to be projecting problems you face locally onto the rest of the world, and that just doesn't work.
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Affect
Level 1
Joined: Aug 03, 2012
Posts: 4
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:45 pm
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Ryan Patty. I've got a Rulebook right here to give to you. It's interactive so look for links and make the most of the table of context.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgvpgipffb3hevf/ZeroPoint.4D.pdf
I'm Thrilled to hear your games' populous problems are minimal out in the land of perfect gaming, lol. This is Louisiana I'm 45min away from a MAJOR North American city that was swallowed by the swamps, literally. We've got Alligators, poisonous snakes of many types, and Black widow spiders? Here's an instagram link to a photo of one that was just chilling at a random gas station a month ago: [url]
https://twitter.com/#!/TheOniPhony/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Finstagr.am%2Fp%2FMeJZkjpkAU%2F
[/url]
My point isn't, who has more or less to care about, it's making sure everyone knows how great of a 'sport' this is, despite any of the environmental or social hazards. Hows a Global organization sound, that rates games objectively, without bias, based on sheer fun and options that the player-base has to enjoy, internationally.
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RyanPaddy
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Joined: Jul 12, 2002
Posts: 1060
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:46 pm
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Thanks for the rulebook link. And the spider photo, very nice. I didn't know black widows have such a distinctive red hourglass shape on their back, that's cool.
The impression I get is that your game ZeroPoint is a post-apocalyptic fantasy, like a fantasy larp but with some modern aspects thrown in (but not firearms) based in our world but after some catastrophe like a nuclear war and with magic. I like the idea of a focus on physical action, including some physical outdoor adventure activity, that sounds fun. The rulebook is too long for my tastes, but some people do like that kind of detail and lots of rules like that. I found the flavour text in the first chapter hard to follow, still not sure what the setting and genre is but maybe that's the idea.
As for an international larp organisation - I think regional and national organisations have more immediate usefulness, because larp is a local activity that you have to be physically present to play. Here in NZ we have formed a national larp society called
NZLARPS
and we have an active national larp forum called
Diatribe
. The society doesn't "rate" games though, it supports them financially and logistically and keeps a big pool of equipment for games to use. It's worth looking into the variety of larp being played around the world, it really is a large and diverse activity and there's lots to learn from how other people approach it.
In terms of something international, I think there's a place for an international larp magazine. A publication with reviews of games, how-to guides, comparisons of different approaches to larp around the world, and so on. Unlike a society, a magazine can be about critiquing as well as supporting the activity. It would be a lot of work to coordinate something like that with correspondents around the world though. And I'm not sure how distribution and sales might work. Physical magazines are nice, but only some countries like Denmark and Germany have a high enough concentration of larpers to create a viable market. Germany already has a national larp magazine called Larpzeit, you can see an English edition of it here:
http://www.larpzeit.de/international/.
I suspect part of what makes it affordable is that they have a lot of larp good manufacturers in Europe, who can advertise in magazines like that.
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BaronBlackRose
Level 8
Joined: Aug 24, 2002
Posts: 741
Location: New England
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:14 am
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Back in the day there used to be a big international LArp / RP mag called GM. But unfortunately it went under. And other mags like Dragon refused to put anything about Larp on their pages.
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Lig
Level 5
Joined: Jul 11, 2004
Posts: 290
Location: Derby, UK
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:11 am
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Most of the document formatting is done well, although I recommend that you "justify" the columns to make the ends of the lines match up, like they do in newspapers.
The actual content of the rules I found a bit overwhelming - it seemed more like a tabletop rulebook to me, with the amount of rules and their complexity. It might be worth having a "quick guide" at the front of the rulebook, so that people can see the key points without wading through all the lists of stuff you have. As Ryan said, some folks do like the detail, but it's important the the experience of playing the game isn't overcomplicated.
I happen to be a rules junkie, although I'm now into creating very compact rule systems, so that's my bias.
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